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Topic: Social history aspects of Cinderellas
Posted By: ed999
Subject: Social history aspects of Cinderellas
Date Posted: 20 January 2015 at 01:12
 Greetings to all who read this, and apologies if I've already started on the wrong foot, or the wrong forum. I'm afraid I could not follow the Instructions For New Members, so I've jumped in to explain why I've joined and hopefully to receive comments. As Ed Fletcher I write the Cinderellas page in Stamp & Coin Mart. It's a very lightweight column, reflecting the shallowness of my Cinderellas collecting experience. I was roped into the job a couple of years ago for my journalist rather than philatelic skills, and during that time I've become fascinated by the stories behind many issues.  If you can rustle up back copies of S&CM, have a look at my feature on Liebig (Oct 2014) and my Promoting Poster Stamps feature (Nov 2014) as typical of my somewhat offbeat approach to Cinderellas.
Lately I've been combing the British Newspaper Archive for all references to unconventional postal services ... and hoping to link that information to particular Cinderella items in a human interest rather than philatelic way.   
My pressing need is for information on anything offbeat about the monks of Caldey Island. I do like their stamp designs .. and admire the paucity of their issuing policy. 
That's about it for my Intro. ... except to add that a.m. today I had eye surgery that will keep me semi-blind for the rest of the day ... hence any typing errors in this. Sorry.


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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 20 January 2015 at 01:33
A hearty welcome Ed

I have always found cinderellas to have more of a story behind them than many convential stamp issues. Often they are more directed to, and intimate, with the subject, reflecting life's smaller details.
I cannot offer anything about Caldey Island' stamps, except that there were few and all low denomination. Just raising a few more pennies in fact. I should have a couple of postcards demonstrating that they were used on genuine post to mainland.


I doubt it would be of any use to you but Malcolm Pryce's excellent Aberystwyth stories have included references to renegade monks from Caldey frequenting the night clubs of the seaside town. It is I fear an alternative Aberystwyth, bearing no parallels in our reality.

Steve

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Posted By: Admin
Date Posted: 20 January 2015 at 01:33
Hi Ed, a huge welcome from everyone here.  Your typing - in semi-blindness - is better than mine when 20:20.

I am sorry you couldn't follow the Instructions for New Members - I will have to take a look at that again - any suggestions appreciated!  We are all new to this too  :-)

I hope someone here can help you with your research into Caldey. 

Please pop in here regularly, we love 'off-beat' and welcome your contributions, unfettered by editors requirements and publishing limitations.  Big smile





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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20 January 2015 at 04:09
Welcome to the forum Ed.

Could I ask you a favour?  The next time you are at the Stamp & Coin Mart magazine's offices could you tell them off for not staying at Stampex until the Saturday when most of us working stamp collectors can get there?  It might save them money but they are missing out on talking to many of their readers.

I look forward to your column in SC&M and now to seeing you post here too  Thumbs Up






Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 20 January 2015 at 23:58
Ed, if you are in the area on the Saturday of February's Stampex you are very welcome to join us in the coffee bar  Big smile   (And you too of course Ken J)

See the 'Events' thread ('What's Going On?') for more details


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 21 January 2015 at 01:07
Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

Ed, if you are in the area on the Saturday of February's Stampex you are very welcome to join us in the coffee bar  Big smile   (And you too of course Ken J)

See the 'Events' thread ('What's Going On?') for more details
You have to fit in with the "no shoes with velcro fastners" rule though!

Keith


Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 21 January 2015 at 01:15
I see it was awarded the "Best Refurbishment" in the Clay Roofing Awards of 2002 and I bet not many people know that!

"The Listed Grade two star Caldey Monastery, designed by John Coates Carter in an Italianate style, was built in 1906 by the Anglican Benedictines. Today the island is inhabited by the Cistercians Monks who arrived in 1929.

The practice has designed and managed an extensive schedule of conservation works to the Monastery at Caldey. The works were funded in part by the H.L.F. for whom a Conservation Plan was prepared, and included the reroofing of 90% of the monastery and the renewal of lost architectural features.

Awarded Best Refurbishment Clay Roofing Awards 2002"

Source - Acanthus Holden architects web site.

Keith


Posted By: ed999
Date Posted: 21 January 2015 at 04:35
Thanks KenJ. I've copied and emailed your comments to S&CM editor Matt Hill. He often uses "Sorry, I'm busy at Stampex" as an excuse for not replying to my emails. Wonder what he gets up to on those lost Saturdays?
Ed


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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 21 January 2015 at 08:31


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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: 22 January 2015 at 03:39
Welcome, Ed. Not sure the that I can be of much help and I am sure you will have found all of the following yourself but just for the sake of posting it together into a single thread.

A Brief History of Caldey

Caldey is a small island off the SW coast of mainland Wales, near Tenby  in Pembrokeshire. With a recorded history going back over 1500 years, it is known as one of Holy Islands of Britain, and a number of traditions inherited from Celtic times are observed by the Cistercian monks who are the chief inhabitants of the island today. At its closest point, Caldey lies 1km (0.6mi) south of the mainland, though the usual access to the island is by small boat from the town of Tenby which is some 4km(2.5mi) to the north. The island's population consists of 40 permanent residents and a varying number of Cistercian monks, known as Trappists, whose predecessors migrated there from Belgium in the early 20th century, taking over from Anglican Benedictines who had bought the island in 1906 and built the extant monastery and abbey but later got into financial difficulties. Today the monks farm the island, chiefly raising dairy cattle, and make a range of items including cheese, shortbread, perfumes and toiletries. In the spring and summer, visitors are ferried to Caldey, not only to visit the sacred sanctuary but also to view the island's rich wildlife. Caldey Island stamps were introduced for sending items from the island to the mainland - 20 minutes away by boat, as Royal Mail does not operate there. The island maintains its own Post Office and has a unique postmark. The stamps are marked "2 dabs". The name "dab" was chosen to reflect the old idea of barter, the dab being a fish caught in local waters.

Source: http://www.localcollectorspost.org/id101.html


The Abbey Church stamp and the 1929-1979 Golden Jubilee stamp are additional to those shown on Steve's envelope above.

Caldey Island

Location: Situated two miles from the mainland close to Tenby in Pembrokeshire, South Wales

Stamps: In the 1970s and 1980s, the monastic community who live on Caldey produced a range of local stamps, sold from the island’s post office, which helped fund renovation work on the island. The island’s first stamps were issued in 1973 and showed various views of the religious buildings on Caldey, including the abbey church shown on the first stamp. The stamps were issued with a currency in ‘dabs’, the name of a local fish. In 1979, the fiftieth anniversary of the arrival of members of the Cistercian Order was commemorated by a black and gold stamps showing the monastery buildings.

Source: http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Features/Britains-local-stamps/_ft1254

I also found the following envelope on photobucket which shows another stamp.



The Caldey Lighthouse stamp is another one that is additional to any on the previous images.

I don't know whether that is now a full set of the stamps issued. There are six in total, five of which (I think) are from 1973 and one from 1979.


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Date Posted: 12 June 2019 at 07:37
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Date Posted: 12 June 2019 at 07:37
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Date Posted: 12 June 2019 at 07:38
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Posted By: guyana1230
Date Posted: 12 June 2019 at 07:41
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