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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2011 at 03:05
Hi All, I'm a collector of these WO-II Allied Military travel permit revenues. Like Michele (marcadabollo) I like them best on actual travel documents. Show's how they were used. They are listed in a few specialist catalogues:
 
[Bush] - Bush-Cass, AMG Revenue Stamps of the Allied Military Government in Europe, 1956, pag R3-R4

[Y&T] - Yvert & Tellier. Les Timbres Fiscaux et Socio-Postaux, 2004, p. 104-105

[Erler] - Erler, Martin & John Norton, Catalogue of the Adhesive Revenues of Germany, Part VIII, German Occup. Issues 1914-19, 1938-45, Allied Occup. Issues 1947-51, 1983, pag 124-127

The listed catalogue prices are really wild guesses (bogus), especially the Y&T. A few values were found in stacks of sheets in the vault of the printer in the 1990's. These are the MNH ones offered by companies like Rigastamps: GratiS, Eine Mark overprint, DM2, DM4 and DM6 overprint. Also the unused DM8 overprint and MNH 15 DM are often seen. From a collectors point of view, the actual used travel permits stamps are far more interesting.

The ones I'm still loooking for are the 50 cents overprint and the higher values used for group travel permits. Anyone? Please contact me, even when only an image of these revenues.
 
Fifty US Cents black overprint on $1 - red
$10 - green / DM 40 black overprint on $10 - green
$20 - orange / DM 80 black overprint on $20 - orange
$50 - blue / DM 200 black overprint on $50 - blue
 
This is an overview, including images I collected of the ones I still miss....
 
AMG Travel Permit Stamps collage
 
If there is interest for examples like the ones Michele showed in his reply, let me know.
 
AMG 01
 
 
AMG 03
 
AMG 07
 
AMG 16
 
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Hi Theo (TeeJay-III) and welcome to the forum. Thanks for supplying more information on these revenues and for the pictures. That seems to answer my question as to the other values in this series. Whereas I agree that revenues look better in situ, I particularly like your passport with British Consular Service revenues, but with passports starting at about £60 each they're a little out of my league. I'm pleased with the mint versions that I have which I got relatively cheaply but I see your point about the prices of even these mint versions especially since they came from sheets found in 1990s as you say.

None of the catalogues that you mention are readily available here with the exception of the Yvert & Tellier fiscal one which is available second-hand at £35 from Amazon which is too much for what would be of minor interest to me.

Anyway it is still very interesting to see all of these examples.

Good luck with your search for your missing values.

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It is possible to get old passports for less than £60. I got this one at a local antiques and collectables fair at a stall selling miscellaneous collectable bric-a-brac. I think I paid £5
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Correct Steve, old passports don't have to cost an arm and a leg. Most of the time 5-10 euro.
When not buying at auctions sites like eBay that is... or Sothebys. This one went for 70.000 GBP.
 
JAMES JOYCE'S WARTIME FAMILY PASSPORT -  
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by TeeJay-III TeeJay-III wrote:

Correct Steve, old passports don't have to cost an arm and a leg. Most of the time 5-10 euro.
 
When not buying at auctions sites like eBay that is... or Sothebys. This one went for 70.000 GBP.
 
JAMES JOYCE'S WARTIME FAMILY PASSPORT
It's so valuable that even the image of it is protected by password! LOL
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Hi Joolz, its there...
 
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Originally posted by TeeJay-III TeeJay-III wrote:

Hi Joolz, its there...
 
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Thanks, Theo. It has indeed now been revealed in all its glory!
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For anyone interested there is an old German passport on ebay with a scattering of cancelled revenue stamps. look here
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I've been looking for an example of this 'banknote' for some time and recently managed to acquire one at a reasonable price:

 
It is an example of a Welsh banknote issued, as a bill of exchange (effectively a cheque), by Richard Williams in 1969. The story behind the various notes that he produced is not straightforward. It wasn't a simple matter of wanting to produce the first and only national Welsh banknotes (later when a Welsh bank was formed and recognised they decided not to issue their own notes) but was more to do with Williams believing that he invented the magnetic cheque encoding system, the machine readable numerals printed across the bottom of all cheques, and that he was due royalties for the use of the system. The first issue was produced in small quantities but Williams hadn't anticipated the huge interest from banknote collectors particularly from the US. Indeed, if he had concentrated on this aspect he wouldn't have died a bankrupt but he was totally obsessed with getting royalties from all of the major banks for his encoding system. 
 
He did produce more notes and even managed to get the Inland Revenue Stamp Office to stamp them with their revenue tax stamp adding much authenticity. Unfortunately for the Inland Revenue they didn't, it would appear, have any Welsh speakers on their staff and they didn't realise that 'Prif Trysora Cymru', the name of his registered company, meant The Chief Treasury of Wales, implying that it was a national institution. When they did find out the remaining stocks of his notes were cancelled as per the example. He continued to produce notes changing the name to The Black Sheep Company and continued to confound the Inland Revenue with Welsh and tried having Welsh pounds and even dollars (neither was accepted when the Inland Revenue found out the translation). He continued his campaign against the banks, the Government and Inland Revenue up until his death in 1988
 
There is a very good book on this subject; 'Money galore: The Story of the Welsh Pound' by Ivor Wynne Jones, Landmark Publishing (ISBN 9781843060840) but probably out of print.
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Hmmmm a Welsh First I didn't recognise.
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